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Between 2017-07-26 00:00:00Z and 2017-07-27 00:00:00Z
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Also annotate dbg_msg, str_format and str_timestamp_ex so that the compiler can determine whether the format strings are correct. Fix the compiler warnings generated by these extra warnings -- some of them were security issues.
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39e771c Fix the CMake Mac build - heinrich5991 573a948 Try Mac on Travis - heinrich5991
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[ddnet/ddnet] New branch created: test_travis_mac
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[ddnet] Branch test_travis_mac was force-pushed to cb30a36
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[ddnet] Branch test_travis_mac was force-pushed to ed15f27
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<heinrich5991> mac build is green now: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/814
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<Pyrorca> Helo, can I speak to an Admni ?
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<Pyrorca> Admin*
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<deen> Pyrorca: what's up?
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<Pyrorca> Some problems, I don't know if you remember me
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<Pyrorca> But I'm a streamer, I stream sometimes Teeworlds, and there is big troubles from that
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<Pyrorca> Some haters/viewers are faking me
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<Pyrorca> On the game, on the serv, blocking, insulting, playing badly
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<Pyrorca> And just now, one of these guy just kicked me with a popular vote
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<Pyrorca> I ask to kick him cause of the fake, nobody response or vote yes, but when HE try to kick me for block ( which is clearly false ) I got banned
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<deen> Yeah, I have the same issue on DDNet
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<Pyrorca> So the only way for me to keep playing the game without having trouble, in stream and off stream, is to have the permission to kick players, and to be unkickable
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<deen> People call me faker and kick me, so I usually don't play with name deen
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<Pyrorca> Or I can't stream anymore the game, which is not somethings I like to
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<deen> Sounds like an extortion: "Give me mod pw or I will stop advertising for DDNet"
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<Pyrorca> Nah it's not
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<Pyrorca> Just a request
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<Pyrorca> Just i'm pretty nervous right now, about what just does happens
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<deen> I'm not the guy who decides that and I don't think admins are on irc
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<deen> This is more for development
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<Pyrorca> Make me feel really bad to know this guy do what he wants
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<deen> I can forward it to admin channel on discord, where can they reach you?
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<Pyrorca> Mh yes, what is the discord ?
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<Pyrorca> I'm on it
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<Pyrorca> "Wolfykh"
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<deen> anyway, no admins online
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<Pyrorca> Erf
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<deen> What about just playing with a random name or in team, not good enough?
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<Pyrorca> Can you transmit the message when there will be an admin ?
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<deen> If you're well known, people will always try to troll you
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<Pyrorca> Exept if can't be kickable
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<Pyrorca> When I pass the filter of a map, they can't not troll anymore
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<Pyrorca> exept 2 things, faking me, and try to kick me
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<deen> If we make you unkickable then you can block people etc
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Pyrorca: Just change your name while you're streaming so people don't bother you
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and have a bind to change it back when you're about to finish a map
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etc
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♱ Wolfykh ♱ 2017-07-26 14:19:54Z
It stupid, cause the guys who want to troll will see my name anyway on the stream, random name or not
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<deen> But I guess we could have helper accounts for "vips" which are unkickable but have no further permissions
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<Pyrorca> And btw i'm not a blocker, this isn't the kind of things I do
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<deen> If gdin and the other admins think that's a good idea
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<deen> and then we can add a ✔ next to the name too if someone is logged into rcon with same name as they authenticated with
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<deen> cheap way of getting accounts for admins, mods and vips
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<Pyrorca> Cause it's impossible to put this ✔ without your way ?
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<Pyrorca> for a random player ?
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<deen> not in the text, we would add it somewhere else
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<Pyrorca> ahm, I don't understand so '_'
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<deen> let me try that helper thing
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<deen> How to tell the client which players are authed?
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<deen> We could use negative ping as a sign
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<deen> then it's easy to show in scoreboard
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<deen> but then we have no indication for people in spectators
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<deen> we could use a PLAYERFLAG in inputs, but then you only see it when you look at the tee
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<deen> we could add an extra packet, but that's more wasteful packets that have to be sent all the time
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<heinrich5991> make it an extra packet on change
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<deen> are they guaranteed to be transmitted?
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<heinrich5991> MSGFLAG_VITAL is guaranteed to be delivered
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<heinrich5991> extra packets can have that
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<deen> but the packet can get pretty big
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<deen> ah, we could make it a bitset
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<deen> just 64 bits
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<deen> much easier to transmit negative latency, haha
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<heinrich5991> duh
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<heinrich5991> ^^
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<deen> what do you think about this idea btw?
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<deen> giving VIPs accounts
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<deen> and showing who's authed with their current name
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<heinrich5991> I don't like it
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<deen> why?
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<heinrich5991> no matter how much people "don't block", I guess most can be tricked into "revenge blocking" at least
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<heinrich5991> and we'd need a policy to remove people from that status
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<deen> yeah
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<heinrich5991> then people will try to block people from that list in order to get them off that list
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<heinrich5991> sounds like a lot of trouble
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<heinrich5991> maybe we need a better way to call for mods?
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how do you even choose who gets VIP
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<heinrich5991> how do you even choose who gets mod?
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<deen> @jao: ask "Who wants to be VIP?" on server and choose the first 50 people
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jao, We will gona use rand
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😃
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well people will want to have it 😄
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adef38a Revert "We want the Timestamp of a team to stay... - def-
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Kill is already bound to K by default, binding it on home as well doesn't really have any purpose. (?) Furthermore, the home key is right next to page up which is bound to toggling entities. It is very easy to accidentally hit home instead of page up, which is highly frustrating.. therefore I suggest removing this duplicate binding.
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d513af6 Removed default bind for home key (kill) - marcelherd a3d6d3d Merge pull request #818 from marcelherd/master - def-
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could give away VIP on a case-by-case basis, much like moderator atm i.e. it could be given to people who are respected by the community as a whole but of course it adds administration overhead (either way it shouldnt be given to many people imo - should be more like an exception) (edited)
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<eeeee> how safe is the auth currently? wouldn't we need some pubkey crypto for this?
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<Learath2> eeeee: auth is not safe at all, i'm working on some pubkey crypto accounts but i'm kinda busy with other stuff
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<heinrich5991> auth is plain-text
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<eeeee> vip accounts would get "hacked" often then
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The new keyboard handling from a recent update makes it so that key remappings done at the OS level fail, (at least for Linux, Debian sid) for example I have mapped caps lock to escape, which no longer works, and caused my caps lock to get stuck on when closing the game. Can there be a way to have the advantages of the raw keyboard handling + OS key remappings, or is that an inevitable casualty of ignoring keyboard layout changes?
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