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And also looks cleaner.

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as a mod you can still see ips of banned people in rcon, idk if this is wanted

<Socialdarwinist> Of course it is wanted, for the purpose of seeing if a banned guy is coming back with a related IP.

but you can't see ips of people

from my understanding admins wanted to completely hide ips from mods

if i understand correctly?

ye that too

21:24

you cant see ips without banning people

yup, so it should be hidden as well, in my opinion (edited)

<Socialdarwinist> But say a mod has banned two times and wants to see if that is the same one and if one should look if he comes back.

and how do you look if an ip comes back?

<Socialdarwinist> Whois services.

for that you need to acess the ip

Topic has already been discussed i guess

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before commit that change

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so, the way that you can check ip of player as a MODERATOR

21:27

should be fixed as well

only downside is that you dont know who to unban if you banned a lot people

21:28

maybe it should say the name of banned person instead

<Socialdarwinist> Maybe as a separate command

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<Socialdarwinist> bans for admins, bannednames for mods or so

unban only works with ip

or store both

21:29

not only

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you can unban by ID

only

as well

u cant

you changed that?

please think it for a moment..

why?

ids are given when a player connects

you are wrong

im correct

bans

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in rcon

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uban<id> of ban

ban <id> , bans the ip of that guy

that doesnt work nor exist

try

<Socialdarwinist> But the unban command does not take IPs as argument.

and it doesnt makes sense

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it does

ryo try byt urself

21:30

i know what im syaing

you know that if u ban a player, and another joins, this one will fill that id?

if it doesn't work on ddnet

ids arent user for bans at all

then, they changed iot.

only when you ban, but that ban issues to the ip

BUT, BANS HAS THEIR OWN

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ID

please think it..

what the hell man D:

ye bans have ids

<Socialdarwinist> Also, I do not see the bad of seeing IPs of banned people. Banned people are regularly responsible for having their IP exposed thus.

and you can unban by ID

21:31

@Socialdarwinist, it is hidden for moderators only

unban    Unban ip/banlist entry
unban_range    Unban ip range
unban_all    Unban all entries

21:32

just think it programatically

21:32

ur arg doesnt make sense

you can ban by mistake or a bad mod just bans randomly to get someones ip

<Socialdarwinist> Why do you have bad mods?

you can't unban by id

because mods are not our rl friends

<Socialdarwinist> For me it looks like you are fiddling to hide befallen administrative mistakes.

im not saying that there are bad mods, but anyone is capable of doing stupid stuff

@Savander see, the ban command accepts id, because the player is connected and it has a ip attached to it, so the server find the matching ip for that id and bans that ip

ryozuki

class CServerBan : public CNetBan
{
    class CServer *m_pServer;

    template<class T> int BanExt(T *pBanPool, const typename T::CDataType *pData, int Seconds, const char *pReason);

public:
    class CServer *Server() const { return m_pServer; }

    void InitServerBan(class IConsole *pConsole, class IStorage *pStorage, class CServer *pServer);

    virtual int BanAddr(const NETADDR *pAddr, int Seconds, const char *pReason);
    virtual int BanRange(const CNetRange *pRange, int Seconds, const char *pReason);

    static void ConBanExt(class IConsole::IResult *pResult, void *pUser);
};

thats not an id

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its an index

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from a list

@Savander dont post ppls ips here lol

i don't care

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at this moment

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i was right anyway

21:35

say what you want, youi can unban guy by ID

<Socialdarwinist> I do not know the exact rationale why the DDNet wanted to hide IPs completely. For me, a reason would be data privacy. Instead of “status”, a command for seeing the IP of a specific player is needed. It may have a threshold, so the ominous bad moderators can only request a limited number of IPs.

thats not an id :P

say what you want, its uniq ID

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of ban

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you can have index 0 twice

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so it's id

index isnt a id

it's just naming (edited)

<Socialdarwinist> Are you just fighting about words?

m_Players[INDEX].m_ID

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see the diference

.. . .

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ok, you are right.

21:37

Be smarter, because its not "ID" but "INDEX" lol

imagine you ban someone, and there are already 10 bans, that player has a id of 5, you ban him, his ban gets indexed as 11 and then as you said, "you can ban by id", you would do unban 5, which is wrong

21:39

thats what i want to express

<Socialdarwinist> Both are IDs, just different kinds of IDs.

they arent ids....

21:39

the index is a index

ID are uniq

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index is uniq, id is uniq

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you can't have two the same index in one table

21:40

it would be stupid

well, you don't want to understand it even when i stated it clearly so idc anymore

and not works

<Socialdarwinist> What does “unique” mean in your understanding? The IDs are of course unique only for a limited time.

player id in teeworlds, can't be use twice. right?

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you joined, you have your own ID for a limited time

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nobody else will have it

<Socialdarwinist> So they are IDs.

yeah

<Socialdarwinist> And the numbers in the ban lists are also IDs.

yes, what's your point?

and ids are also a programming lang

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Irvine Dataflow (Id) is a general-purpose parallel programming language

21:42

:))))

I said that

im jk of this hilarious thing

so hide ips if you ban people and display name instead

<Socialdarwinist> The point is that your actual quibble is that the moderators need to get the distinction explained so they do not make mistakes.

i guess

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you made a mistake, I didn't say anything like that

21:44

i just explained, that the discussed this already

21:44

a month or more ago

we should just revert the hide ips patch

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does sv_max_clients not respond at runtime or sth?

yes

stupid

dont' think so

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maybe should be enabled after reload

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or smth

most games require restart to change that

but not while playing

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but, reload doesn't work as well

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sv_max_clients in rcon shows changed value

knowing the structure of the code i dont see any reason why it cant be changed on the run

but server still use that at runtime

do we have a way of sending a whisper from console or a targeted server msG?

nope

targeted server msg?

really wanted to talk to im corneum but apparently even having access to the server itself won't get me in that server

oh you mean, via console

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right

he asked me if i told to remove his mod :/

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i think he got things totally wrong

he asked me if i removed it

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i said no he left

22:24

interestingly enough from the code it seems you should be able to change max clients on the run

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oh nvm

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